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H & A Schuetzen
Feb 29th, 2008 at 8:56am
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I happened to stop into a local shop to see what was new and this happened to fall into my lap off of the wall. H&A 3922 with a 28" barrel. Anybody have directions for me on the breaking down of the action for a looksee and cleaning. It had been hanging on the wall for the last 40+ yrs according to the shop owner. Also, any idea of the size of the tang sight screws, I didn't get to back them out yet.

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Reply #1 - Feb 29th, 2008 at 8:56am
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Up close.
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 29th, 2008 at 4:40pm
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You lucky devil! As far as breaking down, the Frank DeHass books about singleshot actions are very good and I know he lists the H&A in one of them. I will try to find which book and get it posted, I hope this helps. I used to pass the H&A guns on the tables when they were still in the 75- 140.00 range. Another case of I'll get one later. Wish I would have grabbed one or two then! I did manage to get a Davenport shotgun falling block. Kinda neat old thing, but not as nice as yours!
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Reply #3 - Feb 29th, 2008 at 10:20pm
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In the early 60's I worked in a sporting goods shop that had a Ladies model Favorite hanging on the wall above the gun racks with a bunch of other guns nobody was interested in then. tried to buy it from the shop owner then but he would never say yes or no, shop is long gone and so is the gun Sad

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Reply #4 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 8:25am
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Single Shot Rifles and Actions by Frank de haas has a good article on the H&A single shots. It is available from his son for $28 ppd. 
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20049 west hwy. Z
Ridgeway, MO 64481

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Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 11:47am
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The book Digital refers to IS the one I was thinking of. Chapter 32 is all about the H&A and has the 922. It is a great book if you like single shots at all.
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Reply #6 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 5:40pm
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Thanks for all the info. I did manage to get it apart without injury to myself or the rifle. These have a really heavy spring that the lever keeps tension off of with a roller bearing on a finger on the lever. I wasn't sure at first if opening the lever would relieve all of the tension, but it did. I did get to shoot it today, a bit hard for the small size and light weight, long skinny barrels tend to wander pretty easily. I was also reading through Grants books, I'm not sure which one it was, but had clippings from the H&A catalog, evidently the 3922 and 3925 had a "patented increasing twist barrel". The rifling on this one is kinda light, I have to see if an can get any measurements on the twist.

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Reply #7 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 8:37pm
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Mike a light rifle like that will work really well with a palm rest on the lever.  I was just turning one for a friend today who has a similarly light rifle.

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Re: H & A Schuetzen
Reply #8 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 8:56pm
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Brent,

     That project would be a very good D-I-Y article to be published in the SSR Journal or wherever.  I'm  quite positive it would be well received, and I would be interested in making at least one or two myself, especially if they could be installed on, say, an original  Maynard for instance without altering the lever.

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Reply #9 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 9:23pm
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Frog,
I agree! An article on how Brent is making that would be great. I remember a couple years ago a little bit about a ball type that would somehow clamp itself to the trigger gaurd. It looked like a neat idea. I also saw one of them in a picture twoards the back of Dutchers Ballard book. One of the old smiths and shooters was pictured with his son. His son's rifle has the attachment. 
Brent, Is that similar to what you are making?
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Brent is right, would be a good consideration for your gun.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 1st, 2008 at 9:48pm
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I'm sorry but I cannot produce such an article.  For a couple of reasons.

One of those reasons is that this particular ball is mostly Paul's doing.  Not mine.  I am just doing the wood work.   

I think a palm rest on the lever is better than on the fore arm anytime the muzzle is on the light side as it moves more weight out in front of the offhand.  With heavy rifles, I think the forearm might be better.   

All three members of the Elitist Toads are using lever-based palm rests that are very easy to attach without any alteration to the lever or any other part of the gun.  Each is slightly different and each has it's own advantages.   

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Reply #11 - Mar 2nd, 2008 at 6:09pm
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Beautiful lttle gun Mike! Is it .22LR, or .22 short?
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 3rd, 2008 at 7:31am
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It's a 22 lr. Thanks Val. The extractor on it is kinda useless, it is supposed to kick the empties out with the snap opening of the finger lever, but it only seems to move about a 1/16". Shorts might work better with that, but the lr have to be pulled out with a fingernail. I'll have to live with it. Grin

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That tip might lead to another little project. I'm sure this rifle weighs in at less than 6 lbs. It is a little difficult to handle because of the small size, and I don't have a big frame.

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Reply #13 - Mar 5th, 2008 at 10:57am
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lever mounted palm rest, I think this one is for a lowall
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 5th, 2008 at 11:12am
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I was actually thinking of maybe modifying an extra take-down screw to hold a ball, maybe ala a winchester tuning fork arm. I have to check the clearance of the lever, the throw is pretty long to try and put one on the lever.

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