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Paul_F.
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Uberti High Wall 38-55, Long brass? Or short?
Jan 10th, 2008 at 9:14pm
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Been saving my pennies (and quarters, dimes, and nickles.. and the occasional actual piece of paper currency) for a Uberti .38-55 High Wall after being very favorably impressed with a .45-70 model of a local acquaintance.

I've run into a question, however, that I haven't been able to answer;

Does the Uberti .38-55 have a chamber cut for the "modern" spec 1.082" brass? Or the original spec 1.125" brass?

I called Buffalo Arms (planning to order one, but they're currently out of stock)...
They were very helpful with my questions about sight dovetail dimensions (we both got a laugh out of Uberti's description that it's a "metric 3/8" slot"...).
Unfortunately, they didn't know about the brass/chamber, and didn't have one handy to check.

Rich at Buffalo Arms even called Uberti...
THEY didn't know (though I suspect they just didn't understand the question...).

I SUSPECT that Uberti probably cut the chamber for the "modern" spec of 1.082"..

Does anyone have a .38-55 Uberti High Wall they load for that could confirm my suspicion?

At least them being out of stock gives me another paycheck to squirrel away money!
(and buy the dies, brass, mold, etc etc...)

Thanks in advance!
Paul F.
  
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Re: Uberti High Wall 38-55, Long brass? Or short?
Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 9:22pm
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I am currently field testing some of Starline's new brass in .38-55 for an article in the Journal.  We used the "long" brass in a Uberti high-wall without trimming it, so I would say the Italians are using the original, longer chamber dimension.  YMMV, but that's how it looks from here!  Cool

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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 9:28pm
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Excellent!  Just the brass I was hoping for (since I just happen to have some of Starline's "long" brass in my MidwayUSA online shopping cart...).

If nothing else, I can trim the long ones short if necessary, but "stretching" the short ones sounds like more work that would be entertaining...

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Reply #3 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 12:30am
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If you can hold on a bit, Dick Trenk (Pedersoli's US rep) has reported that Pedersoli is going into production with a high wall. They will be obtaining frames from Uberti under their joint relationship (the Sharps Uberti sells are made by Pedersoli). They are supposed to be using their own barrels, set triggers and stocks. They are also reheatreating the frames. The rifles are/were supposed to be unveiled at the shot show.

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Reply #4 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 12:36am
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Well that's darn interesting, and darn tempting!
But I'm not sure how long I can wait...  Smiley

Maybe it wouldn't hurt to see if they're available RIGHT AT Shot Show time...

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Reply #5 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 4:11am
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Not "Nit Picking" but I think you mean 2.082 or 2.125 Smiley

I bought Winchester Brass for mine, not really sure how long they are but when I find my Calipers I will measure them and get back to you
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:25am
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I made a Cerrosafe cast of my Uberti .38-55 chamber and determined that it is cut  for the longer brass.

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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 10:15am
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This is the quote from Dick, along with a link over to the msn BPCR forum

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"Just received a brief message today from the engineering office in Italy and I am pleased to be able to share this with BPCR people immediately.
 
"We are currently producing the first prototypes in the .38-55 and the .45-70 calibers. 
We will have to make extensive tests before to start with the regular production. 
We are working to have the samples ready to show at the next Shot Show in LV first week of February. 
We will be able to inform about first deliveries after the show. "
 
From prior conversations I know we plan to offer the 38-55 with 12:1 twist and a long chamber to properly utilize the 2.130" cases made available by Starline.  We will also offer 45-70 and 45-90 calibers along with various barrel weights and shapes.
This is ALL I know and I cannot answer any questions at this time.
After the Shot Show In Las Vegas I can post further information.
Dick T."
  
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Re: Uberti High Wall 38-55, Long brass? Or short?
Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 11:00am
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Just a passing comment.  I assume the major interest for this project is for the BPCS crowd, but I can't help but wonder why they aren't going to make a DST .32-40 high-wall for the paper target (read  "schuetzen") crowd.  I guess we don't be buying enough rifles (or at least that would be the prediction) to inspire that variation.  I wonder why Winchester .32-40 brass keep selling out as fast as they run it?  Huh

Then again, you could get a new .32-40 barrel from Green Mtn and put it on in place of the .38-55.  They use the same extractor, etc, so the job would be very straightforward.

HMMMMM.  Undecided
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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 11:15am
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Johnny B.;  Perfectly legitimate nit to pick!  Yes, I was short an inch on my numbers... Tongue



I'm interested in the .38-55 because I think it can fill two wants of mine... Schützen, and a local version of the Quigley Match.   
Having an italian high wall in .38-55 will let me shoot for a couple years while I gather my cash and my wits to build or buy a dedicated rifle for each sport if I choose to continue with both.


I just hope that the first boat load of those Pedersoli's arrives in early february, so some folks can look 'em over before I place my order..
It would be nice to have the choice between the Uberti (which I've already seen and been impressed by), and a Pedersoli (which the twist sounds better on compared to the longer twist of the Uberti .38-55).

As long as Pedersoli makes a pistol-grip and double or single set version!

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Re: Uberti High Wall 38-55, Long brass? Or short?
Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 11:57am
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Regarding the production time of pedersoli I have been informed by the factory that they will start mass production in this spring and hope to start to deliver in June, there will be no public sale at show in LV but the prototypes will be on display.

I would waite for the Pedersoli there barrels is to my belives much better than uberti which I have had problems with earlier.
Michael
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Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 12:05pm
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THanks for the info!

*Sigh*
Five months... at best...

*Sigh*

Guess I'll have to keep trying to get my Aydt to shoot Smiley

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Reply #12 - Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:49pm
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Sounds like deja vu all over again! I had to double check the date of this post because I swear we heard this last year about the Pedersoli High wall being unveiled at the shot show.  Joe S
  
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