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Ballard Barrel Question
Oct 13th, 2007 at 11:12pm
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I don't know whether this actually would be better posted in Gunsmithing or Collecting as it has elements of both, so for now I am posting it in both rooms to see what I get.  As I have mentioned previously I have a Ballard Pacific that is right in appearance but has a mismatched barrel and fore end from the rest of the rifle.  I went through and scrubbed the barrel thoroughly today and found that it comes up shiny in the bore, but there are some small pits noticeable, espcially in the grooves.  Since it is a .40-90, getting brass to build loads for it has been problematic.  I have a set of moulds from B&D that should throw the right sized bullets, based on the test bullets Jim included when delivered and the bore slugging I did at the time.  I have 3 types of brass, each of which needs some significant alteration, 9.3X74R RWS brass that fits but has too small a rim for the extractor to pick up, .405 brass from Norma that has rims waaay too thick to allow the block to close and is short as well, and BELL Basic .40 that is too long as is and will at least have to have almost a quarter inch removed to chamber in this rifle.

     My dilemma is that I hate to do all the work on that brass only to find out the bore is not going to be accurate enough for me to use for BPCS, the intended role I have planned for it.  Other than the serial number on the bottom, the barrel is unmarked as to caliber or even manufacturer, though it fits what appears to be an unaltered original Pacific fore end.  How do you collectors and gunsmiths weigh in on the idea of reboring the original (but not to this rifle) barrel to .45 and shooting either .45-70 or .45-90 in it?  Since the barrel has no caliber markings on it now, I am thinking that changing the caliber might be a good thing rather than a sacrilege.  What think ye?

TIA for all constructive input.  Froggie
  
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Re: Ballard Barrel Question
Reply #1 - Oct 14th, 2007 at 7:40am
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froggie,
be brave, cut 5 to 7 pieces of the bell and give it a try. I never load more than that for testing black any way. then if it shoots you are only out the brass. if it wont then bore it.
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Reply #2 - Oct 14th, 2007 at 8:17am
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Frog,
If you already have a mold I would make up some cases and try it. It will probably shoot OK if the pitting is not too bad. You may find that you like the .40 cal. recoil a little better than the .45 also. I have found that shortening the cases goes a lot faster if you use your metal lathe with a stop set to at least hog off the major overage. When you put them in the three jaw chuck just pull them out untill the rim catches on the back of the jaws. That way you have some reference and do not need to reset the stops for every shell.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 14th, 2007 at 12:04pm
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You could consider having a few RMC cases turned to fit.  Try them and see if the barrel is suitably accurate.  If so, make some more yourself or buy more RMC.  If not, then reboring etc seems reasonable to me.

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Re: Ballard Barrel Question
Reply #4 - Oct 14th, 2007 at 10:11pm
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I'll second what Brent wrote.  Open your wallet and let the moth's out GF Grin

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Re: Ballard Barrel Question
Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 1:40am
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I also have a  40-90 Ballard and the chamber is a bit large.  My limited research leads me to believe it is an everlasting chamber.  All I can find on everlasting brass is that it is heavier.   

Could it be turned brass of the era?

I was trying figure out why it keyholed so much.  Then I slugged the bore and found it was .412.  Thats as far as I got with it as I got sidetracked by Martini's.
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 7:39am
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That's another job for Dave Casey at RMC.  Send him a casting of your chamber and he can make you custom fit brass

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Re: Ballard Barrel Question
Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2007 at 2:44pm
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OK guys, thanks for the advice.  I will go ahead and try the rifle as is before reboring/rebarreling.  If I can't sweet talk somebody out of one or two cases I'll try to do up a case or two from .405 and deal with it being short.  Then if that works, I'll go up to the treasured stash of .40 Basic and make a set of 20 to last a while.

Froggie

PS and westerner/joe, I can't "...let the moths out" of my wallet, they all died of starvation!   Grin  Grin  Grin
  
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