Thinking about your top shooters list you have it about right. I know of one or two guys that shoot localy in that class but do not travel to the big west or mid west matches. One of the names you mention shoots our matches and is real good, nice guy too but he does not always win. I would put money on at least one of our eastern shooters against any of the names you mention. 

Along those lines. What Hudson score seperates the "men from the boys"  is it 2100 or higher ?  How about the Hayes Iron sight score is it 2100 ?  I have always felt that 2100 was a benchmark.  And not easy to do either.

What do you think the various club rules mean in potental scores.  ASSRA scoring 100 on the paper . WSU scoring 100 fired.  ISSA 50 shot in squaded relays. Tradional rifle vs modern single shot. smokeless vs black powder.  I think it would be safe to lump them together. Only rule would be 100 shots. 

Surely a modern striker action shooting a short case with modern internal adjustment scope would have an advantage but if the guy with the modern rig could not hold he would not have any advantage with one over something else. Even thought I think it's the most "pure" It would be difficult to police WSU's 100 shot rule. Top level shooters are not going to gain much from being alowed to throw away pulled shots, they are not making many of them.

I was thinking we could have  a 21xx club give some reconigtion to anyone who shoots a score over the bar.  Simmular to the 5 or 10 in a row pins in modern rifle silouette.  You could just mail in the 10 targets to some sort of committe. Heck I would even do it for ASSRA myself.  Pins or patches would not cost much. Little publicity in the magazines would be nice to see too.

I know I never won many silouette matches not even close when I got over club level. But I sure worked hard for those 10 in a row pins. If I thought I could shoot 10 rams would probably drop Schuetzen long enough to get it done. If they let me shoot my rimfire Schuetzen may have a chance but only a slight one.

If possable it would have to be open to anyone, fairly loose target and rifle rules, and fired at any range, Not just Raton/Etna Green. Count the holes and if it's a canidate mail it in thats all. You could even allow postal matches as well as registered schuetzen matches

Boats

I overlooked the shooting of one Bob Hereen who often shoots at the
Ashville Club. He should be in the top 10.

Fred

Boats,
I have to agree about some of the shooters I know especially from muzzleloading. I have tried to get some of them involved in Schuetzen but it has a tough sell. I did manage to get three of 'em to come out and watch at Brushy Mt for a little while. They like to ask me about my "Gentlemen's Shooting Match" from time to time. But so far I haven't been able to convert any of 'em. But you can bet I'll keep trying! I almost had one guy, Robert Hicks, involved in the Winter League WSU .22 off hand match, but he had to work weekends last winter. The .22 seems to get some interest because of the ease of loading and availability.
Merwin
P.S. Maybe I can get The Frog to help me double team some of 'em and get 'em shootin'!

I think Fredrick mentioned Jim Feren in the origional post.  My list was only East Coast Shooters that have shot Schuetzen in the past

Feren was a National Champion Silouette shooter years ago.  I never met him but he wrote some articles on offhand shooting I saved and still refer to.

Boats

And if you were to include the Canadian National ISSA best offhand shooters you need to include:


200 Yard Iron Sight O.H.     438/500   Ken Nelson
200 Yard Iron Sight O.H.     438/500   Colleen Molendyk
200 Yard Any Sight O.H.     454/500    Colleen Molendyk

I don't know his national records but Chuck Blender was one of the best Sillouette shooters in the East "in the day"

Boats