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Tex Dooley
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Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Aug 6th, 2007 at 1:57pm
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Gentlemen

I need some help finding the part as seen missing below.

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I believe it to be a block from a 1871 Springfield Remington Military Model.

I’m needing the firing pin retainer.

I have checked with Numeric, and they have no clue.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on finding this part, or to someone who can? 


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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2007 at 11:41pm
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I have seen blocks like this one. I have a small one that came in a no 7 roller action that I bought. I also worked on one of the Italian copys of the no. 2 that had this set up. It has a large pin that just rests inside with a small tit that fits in the smaller side. If you know someone that has a metal lathe it would be easy to turn one. Jerry
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 7:56am
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That block looks just like the one in my 71 Springfield. If you do not fined the part perhaps we can get one made using mine as a pattern. However if you fined a source for 71 Springfield parts please let me know as I am in need of a trigger guard.
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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 8:44pm
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I'm not acollector but I may have some useful info on this. I have a number 2 rolling block with a hammer like this. It is, on the number 2, for a firing pin retractor. When I got it I was surprised because DeHass said there were no firing pin retractors on number 2s. But I had one that seems to be original - not a mod. I checked with RSA, local collectors, etc. and only found one reference to such a retractor in one of Grants books. He said he saw one but knew zip about it. Thus my thought that this might also be for a firing pin retractor. If you have the pin that goes through the hammer, does it have a sort of cam cut into it?
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2007 at 4:28pm
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That block looks just like the one in my 71 Springfield. If you do not fined the part perhaps we can get one made using mine as a pattern. However if you fined a source for 71 Springfield parts please let me know as I am in need of a trigger guard.
 Exblaster

Unfortunately the block came in as you see it, with a batch of various other mixed RB parts from an estate sale, a dozen years back. The block is a perfect fit for my first generation RB frame, and matches up good to all the other parts.

I have been told it was a block from a Springfield 1871 model, and that the particular design was for quick and easy change out of the firing pin in the field, but I have seen a few seemingly original Springfield RB‘s without this block design.

It makes one wonder if military armories had a problem spreading their parts around from gun to gun, like a communicable disease in a Shanghai whore house?

The Springfield Model 1871 Rolling Block U.S. Army rifle was manufactured in 1871-72 by Springfield Armory, using the design originated by Remington Arms Company, under a royalty agreement. The Model 1871 production was limited to 10,000 rifles in .50-70 caliber.

I’m like you If anyone knows of a source of original Springfield RB parts, engrave their phone number on the inside of your frame for future reference, and then post it here.

“Exblaster” if possible, could you get a couple of snapshots of the pin retainer up close, so I can see how its constructed, if it presents too much a hassle, don't worry about it, I'll bluff my way through.


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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2007 at 8:07pm
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Tex from what I can learn you are correct that is the block from a 71 Springfield. I compared the picture with the one in my rifle and thy are the same. My rifle is dated 1872 so it may have been a late modification.
  I will try to post pictures of the block dissembled as soon as I can. Hope that will help you.
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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 7:02pm
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Somewhere in all my junk I have that cam. It is indeed the retractor for the firing pin. I will look tomorrow. moodyholler
  
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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 8:07pm
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Found it!!! Send address and I will mail it to you. If it works send me 15.00 and if not, send it back. Thanks, moodyholler
  
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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2007 at 11:57pm
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I have a 71 Navy, I'll check the parts in it, and try to remember to get back to you.
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Reply #9 - Dec 18th, 2007 at 9:55am
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I'm not an expert, but this seems to me to be a very common type of firing pin retractor, i owned a 43 spanish rolling block(remington) that had the same type of breech-block. I do not believe this is any different than mine.Why don't you call Womack in central CA and get a whole new breechblock, i'm sure he's got lots of parts, he's also a great guy to deal with and talk single-shots, i must have been on the phone over an hour just chatting last year.It would be much easier to repalce the whole breech-block, trust me on this.
  
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Re: Need advice on Rem. Rolling Block part
Reply #10 - Dec 18th, 2007 at 6:09pm
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I took a look at mine. It has a headed screw/pin like your picture. Only yours must be damaged, as it should have threads below the head of the screw. I could make one, but your block needs repair first before a standard F/P screw can be used. Tom, 615-591-1721
  
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