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dick_eesley
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ballard serial number
Jan 15th, 2007 at 11:34am
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Embarrassed  my ballard action has serial number 85xx  any ideas how old it is
I assume it was originally a Pacific (set triggers)  resurrected and reblued by Jerry de Vaudreiul, new barrel by Segrist, new stock by John Grant then to me   as usual shoots better than I can hold it
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Re: ballard serial number
Reply #1 - Jan 15th, 2007 at 3:51pm
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Hi Dick,

You haven't given me a lot of information, but if it's straight grip with double set triggers, it was probably a #5 Pacific which would have been made about 1882 or there abouts, and it should be a forged action which is good. This is my best guess without seeing it. What caliber is it now?

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Reply #2 - Jan 15th, 2007 at 8:39pm
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schuetzen bob    the buttstock was replaced by John Grant so no help there   It is a forged action  dick
  
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Re: ballard serial number
Reply #3 - Jan 15th, 2007 at 9:02pm
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Dick,

I should have been more specific, there's two basic contours of Ballard actions; straight and pistol grip. This is not the stock, it's the action itself, the pistol grip action turns down on the bottom where it meets the stock to form the grip, #5 Pacific actions were the straight variety. Sounds like you've got a nice rifle!

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Reply #4 - Jan 17th, 2007 at 10:01am
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schuetzen bob   actually it doesn't look like much   no forearm, use a pipe clamp as a stop on the barrel much to jim bortons disgust---  on the theory that the more targets you shoot in assra matches - the more chance you might get lucky   I have been lucky in shooting 5 groups under .500" at 200 yards in our assra matches   thank you for your reply dick eesley
  
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Re: ballard serial number
Reply #5 - Jan 17th, 2007 at 2:07pm
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Dick, 

     A Ballard w/o a fore end is perfectly traditional...think about the Milwaukee style rifles that just had that little socket thing for a palm rest. Puts that weight in the barrel wher it belongs!

BTW, can you tell me anything about Segrist, the barrel maker?   Did/does he rebore old barrels too?

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Reply #6 - Jan 17th, 2007 at 5:25pm
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It would be difficult to guesstimate the age of your Ballard without knowing if it is marked JM Marlin or Marlin Firearms Co. on the left side of the receiver. All JM Marlin marked Ballards were pre 1881, as the name changed when the company incorporated in 1882 and became Marlin Firearms Co. Unfortunately, they restarted the serial numbers when the company name changed, so there are duplicates within each company name marking.
As for which model it started out as, it could be one of many, as every model could be special ordered with double set triggers. I have #2 and #4 Ballards with special order DST, plus #5 Pacifics, so not so easy.
However, if it has the two small holes on either side of the center forearm hole, on the front of the receiver, then it was most definitely a #5 to begin with.
  
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