I'm interested in giving schuetzen a try, and have a line on a rifle that has a tang sight as well as scope blocks on the barrel. Are there any scope makers out there offering a traditional-looking scope for schuetzen at a price a newcomer can afford?

Ouch.

Ass't is completely correct. I have several single shot rifles set up with modern scopes utilizing the Weaver blank bases. Let it be known, that I prefer Burris Signature "Zee" rings with the plastic inserts for modern scope mounts. The inserts act as gimbals allowing the scope rings to self align, totally eliminating any stress on the scope tube. It also eliminates the need for lapping scope rings.

This makes for a very strong and relatively inexpensive scope mount. Doesn't look bad, either!

Dale53

another view without scope

In the Schuetzen game you are continually switching back and forth to iron sights. Therefore a good set of quick detachable rings such as the Warne rings are a good investment since they go right back to zero when you put them back on.

Some other good scopes to consider are  Burris, Redfield and Leupold. However if you want to be traditional the Unertl and Lyman external mount scopes are the way to go. In Schuetzen you will find the 20x scopes work well for offhand as well as bench. The higher powers can be more difficult to use under mirage conditions and they magnify your inability to hold the gun steady when you shoot offhand (very disconcerting to beginners). But for bench you should look for a scope that has fine cross hairs or less than 1/4 minute dots so you can select part of bullseye you wish to hold off on for minute wind changes.

In the single shot game we value the clarity and brightness of good quality scopes. You can always start out with cheaper scopes but in the end you will find yourself buying a good one anyways. Therefore you might as well bite the bullet and upgrade at the start if you can.

And of course the better sopes come with 1/8 minute click adjustment target knobs that are repeatable. Another advantage in the precision shooting sports.

J.D.;
I have used the KimberWarne base stock for my S&W 8 3/8" revolver with KimberWarne rings and must admit that they look nice and work well. Further, my Burris Scope with large dot is mounted between the sights and just looks dandy (as you suggest).

However, to get the eye relief correct for my Peregrine (and I challenge you when you say my Peregrine is a "clunky" target rifle). It is perhaps beautifully sturdy but "clunky", never!! . Using the Weaver base, I cantilever it back over the receiver ring as some modern scopes will not allow proper eye relief without having the rear ring over the receiver ring.

I rather think that there is room for both systems depending on the individual rifle and scope.

As always, YMMV...

Dale53

I use traditonal scopes on my Schuetzens. Unertil and Lyman STS.  For Modern Silouette rifles I have a couple of Leopolds that have had the reticules altered they are good scopes too. My air rifle I use a Jap made Weaver T 15 which also works well.

But tradition aside and for a rifle range, paper target match scope were waterproof is not required none beat the old Weaver T's   The optics are not as good as modern scopes and not being waterproof not the best for hunting either.   But in organised shooting matches daytime on paper targets the optics are plenty good enough. The mechanicals which are critical to good scores have never been equaled by any modern scope.

The Steel tubes are less affected by temp changes than aluminium, Paralix adjustment is much more precise than a Leopold and when you click a change it goes right were it's supposed to.

Boats

marlinguy wrote on Dec 20^th, 2006 at 10:22pm:


Depends. I just eBay-auctioned a like-new 1 1/2" Unertl 12x, got ~ $550 for it. At about the same time, won an eBay auction on a 10x 1 1/4" Litschert in VG cond for ~ $280. Got over $700 for an Exc Lyman 5A with original Lyman leather case that Clarence the Collector won in another auction (not eBay) for $275. He thought he'd be lucky to get $500 & I offered it on this site but no takers, go figure! Exc 1" Unertls can be bought for $400-600 but most all other brands are cheaper, some a lot cheaper. Higher powers bring more money of course, and a 2" Unertl 36x would probably bring $700-900 or more. And prices are still rising!
Amazing, Joe