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Nov 30th, 2006 at 2:03pm
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I own a rifle based on a miniature Gibbs Farquaharson action as was used on rook rifles. I know the miniature actions to be exceedingly rare, particularly in this country. Has anybody seen any in any other applications of any kind?
  

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Re: Gibbs Farquaharson
Reply #1 - Nov 30th, 2006 at 5:32pm
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tim_s,

I think some were relined to varmint rounds like the .22 Hornet, both in this country and in England.  Classic Arms and Militaria, an English gun magazine, has had several articles on these rook rifles, with only one picture of a miniature Farquharson in a slew of break-actions and small Martinis.  (You do have a rarity; congratulations, and I can't find a green-with-envy smiley face to illustrate.)

Both CA&M's articles and one or two in the Gun Digest and other mags in this country in recent years deplore the ruination of the original calibers by relining or rebarreling.  According to one article I read, many of the converted rifles were redone in England not because somebody wanted a more modern chambering, but because Eley stopped making a lot of the peculiar cartridges for which these rifles were originally chambered.  When this happened, the local police authority might declare that the owner couldn't cite a use anymore, and refuse to renew the owner's license to possess the rifle.  Illustrating this was a nice Westley-Richards break action which had been bored out to a .410 shotgun.  (*Shudder!!*)
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 30th, 2006 at 8:15pm
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Thanks. In the Gibbs edition of the great series of books done on British SS rifles, it is implied that Gibbs make perhaps 60-70 miniatures. I've never seen another in the US which is what prompted the question.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 1st, 2006 at 12:41pm
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You must mean Wal Winfers series The Britsh Single Shot Rifle. Some great stuff in those books.

Cringe--- rebore or reline them when the barrels are perfectly good!!  Half the fun of them is figuring out how to make ammunition for them and shooting them.  How many good .310 Cadets have been rechambered to 32/20 and still won't shot. Learn the secrets and make them shoot.  Your education about these old guns and calibers will be greatly expanded.  To many of us realy don't know what a heeled bullet is or how rifling other than Enfield works.  So much history to be revisited.

  

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Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 8:31am
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While fundementally I'd agree with you let's try and keep in mind these things were not a long range express or a Creedmore of some kind. The .310 spent most of it's life shooting rats and foxes at about 15 yards. Google the 2004 Guns Digest cover, I'm pretty happy with the "destroyed" gun in my safe.
  

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Re: Gibbs Farquaharson
Reply #5 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 10:14am
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Tim,
FWIW - in its day the .310 was not considered a rook and rabbit round - it was too powerful for that.  In actual fact, it was even used for hunting the smaller deer species - and if W. W. Greener is to be believed, it was useful as such out to 200 yds...  Don't underestimate the .310, it is a very versatile  and nice cartridge, which apparently was also very popular with taxidermists, as it did very little apparent damage.  It was also a popular target cartridge in its day
In fact, each and every year at Bisley, UK, you can shoot .310's at 200 yds (mostly the BSA .310 cadet). and looking at the scores, some .310 shooters can give some serious competition to the fullbore military rifle shooters...   
You could consider is as a heavy-bullet .32-20, with a 120gr bullet at about 1250 fps.  Definitely not for rats or pest control...    A.310 Farquharson would definitely be quite a desireable item indeed!  Not too many of those around.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 11:35am
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That's a great point. If you go back to the origonal start to the post, the question began because the primary use for these actions was almost entirely for rook rifles as often as not used by game keepers on estates. As such, most saw a hard day to day life and lots either did not survive or were pretty used up. When I talked to the guys that made mine up for the American Custom Guild project I was told the action was impossiple to find and was in unbelivable lousy shape to start with, which you'd never guess if you saw the current internals.
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 11th, 2006 at 8:13am
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I too own an exceedingly rare small action Gibbs farky. My action is too small for any of the large bore rounds, yet just a bit bigger than a rook. In its present configuration it has a 22" .303 lite wieght sporter barrel, and wieghs 6& 1/2 lbs. Mine is a best grade gun, with much use in the field and little original condition left. The scroll engraving on this gun is incredibly fine and absolutely superb. I have heard my gun reffered to as a baby farquaharson. My action is now on at least its 3rd barrel and I can only imagine the things this lovely old gal has seen. How wide is your action? Mine is about 1.330" across, and measures and is about 2.4" high from the top of the ring to the bottom of the action and about 2.2" wide. I really would love to know what caliber this gun was originally chambered for. Any how....there is at least one more small action farky out there. heres a picture of her here....sorry it just so happens to be on my rates page, that was not intentional.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links);  
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Reply #8 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 11:03pm
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Probably fifty years ago saw a baby Farq by Westley Richards in .22 R2 Lovell, might have been relined, stockwork looked like late style Shelhamer with big cheekpiece & fillet behind grip but owner said it was all WR.   Best quality scroll engraving.  I still think it was Shelhamer stockwork.
  
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Re: Gibbs Farquaharson
Reply #9 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 10:57am
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Hey Bouldersmith;
  Sorry I missed your post. Welcome to the forum. I can attest the Farky's you have are something to lust over. Great projects. Kind of makes my Remington  Roller projects look pale in comparison. I will try to stop in for a visit some time this week. Maybe I might also get bit by the British Bug?
  

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Reply #10 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 8:12pm
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Flatlander,
              I like rollers too! As a matter of fact I'm in the middle of converting one to a side-lever and turning it into an inline .50 cal for long distance shooting in south dakota. I love single shots and all things british are my first love, but rollers can be cool! Mine will have a bit of English influence to say the least. Top in and say Hi.
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Re: Gibbs Farquaharson
Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:19pm
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Steve, great gun. I do not believe that your's is a 'miniature". My action is probably 1/3 smaller. To get an idea "Google" Guns Digest 2001. Mine is ,in fact that cover gun, It will give you an idea as to size. If it were not for the fact that the grip was stretched out when stocked, you'd think it was a kid's gun- almost 1/2 size. This thing is really little. I have been told all of the minis have the same type of safty which is on the right side of the action and swings through about a 25-30 degree arc.
  

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