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screwloose
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Reply #15 - Apr 11th, 2006 at 10:18am
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Im not to sure the paper is not abrasive. That is why I have avoided them If you get the barrel conditioned with a good lube leading will not be a problem. how long will a bore last with paper patch bullets? They go a long way with copper jacket. I think paper could be more abrasive than copper. Like everything that rubs at high temp. I try to add castor oil to the lube. could a pp bullet be lubed with castor or is it a problem with blk?
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Tom
  
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Brent
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Reply #16 - Apr 11th, 2006 at 10:49am
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The bore will last basically, forever.  Lots of folks like to worry themselves and other to death over abrasiveness of paper, but with a little lube on the paper, all is well over thousands of rounds.   

I have not tried castor oil.  I doubt that it would work, but you can try.  If the oil turns the paper translucent (like olive oil will for example - or bore butter), then it's not going to be a good thing.  SPG or Black Magic or Minute Man lubes have been the best for me.

Brent
  
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Lee_Stone
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Reply #17 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 10:26am
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This thread makes me wonder about the safety of the "Texas Bore Pigs" that are becoming popular for clearing fouling between shots. Since they are made with either a nylon or bronze brush backed with a series of Scotchbrite washers, it now appears they may not be a good idea. I think I will just continue to use my cotton patches.
  
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Brent
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Reply #18 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 10:37am
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Lee,
Not all Scotch Brite is created equal.  Don't make the Texas Bore Pigs into the same boogey man that WD40 was made into 10 yrs ago.   

Brent
  
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Lee_Stone
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Reply #19 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 10:47am
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Brent,

Well, I don't know enough about the Scotchbrite to know the differences. So I figured that in my ignorance, I might just be safer to stick with what I am familiar with. I am pretty confident my cotton patches are of no danger to the bores of my rifles. But then I have been intrigued by the reports I've heard of those using the Bore Pigs. The Bore Pigs certainly are reported to clear the bore very well. 

Do you think the Bore Pigs are safe? I value your opinion a whole lot more than mine on this issue.
  
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Brent
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Reply #20 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 11:49am
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Lee, I use bore pigs religously in my .38s and my .45.  I like the nylon bristle version a lot.  The Bronze bristles don't hold up among other things.   

Now, you can make other bore critters if you want.  Skip Epp makes a great system of bore weasels using nylon brushes and then a nylon squeege like washer that is held in a machined delrin bushing mounted on the brush stem.  It works well too, but does not get one's bore quite so clean and, importantly, quite so dry as the pigs.   

I have seen other folks using very good looking homebrew bore critters made from bristle brushes and felt washers (I presume the felts are also nylon).  They work well and some have rubber squeeges on the back made from who-knows-what.   

In any event, I use the Bore Pigs the most.  In a silhouette or bulls-eye match, I use them after every shot - pushing them through on a rod with a dry cotton patch on a jag.  That's what works best for me.   

Brent
  
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Lee_Stone
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Reply #21 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 11:57am
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Thanks Brent,

The concept of the Bore Pigs and the reports I had heard and read on them has attracted me to them, but the recent comments on Scotch Bright made me want to ask more questions. But if you have had good experience with them, then that sounds good to me. 

I really appreciate your input, and I apologize for hi-jacking this thread. Didn't mean to do that. Just wanted to learn something.
  
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xxgrampa
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Reply #22 - Apr 25th, 2006 at 11:02pm
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hi ho paul,

one thing that will  clean the bore lickity split is a filler. filler clean lead, copper and foulong in about 4-6 shots. 

fillers are used in all my loads and a dirty bore is never a pblm..

..ttfn..grampa..

PS... was a paper maker for many, many years. you and your decendenta will never wear out a bbl using ppb's..
  
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horsefly
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Reply #23 - Apr 26th, 2006 at 3:46pm
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Good morning, Board;

Before everyone gets all agitated and starts kicking xx about fillers, let me relate an experiment I did with scotchbrite.  It is true that all scotchbrite is not the same, so this applies only to the green grocery store variety.

I chucked a one inch piece of coldrolled round stock in the lathe and "touched" the tool to it to make two rings about 1/2 inches apart.  I did this so I would run the scotchbrite and so I would measure in the same place each time.

After marking and measuring the workpiece, I set the lathe to 1000 rpms and held a new piece of scotchbrite against the workpiece and pressed firmly on it in two places (thumb and forefinger).  I stopped after 15 seconds and measured the workpiece.  No change.  So I did it for 15 more seconds the same way.  No change.  So I did it for 30 more seconds the same way.... well, almost the same way.  I may have quit a second or two early because the friction burned my fingers.

THERE WAS A CHANGE!  The workpiece was (as well as I could measure) somewhere around 0.0001 and 0.0002 LARGER.  I think the larger is a measuring error or else the piece expanded from the heat generated. Two thousand firm applications of the material did not make a significant difference in the dimension of cold rolled steel.

So, now I use green grocery store scotchbrite with no second thoughts.  I like it.

Y'all be good.

horsefly
  
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