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vatrader01
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Need Stevens 44 advise..
Mar 28th, 2006 at 5:50pm
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Great board! Newbie needs help with project rifle. I just picked up a Stevens Model 44, rough as a cob. Only way I will ever have anything that looks like a Scheutzen rifle is build one. I have ordered furniture from CPA in PA. Also ordered butt plate, palm rest, trigger gaurd. High comb pope butt stock. While waiting for the furniture, I need to find a barrel. Would like a 28" 1/3 hex, 2/3 round heavy barrel in .22 LR. Where do I look? Also, anyone know if a model 44 1/2 barrel will fit a model 44? Next, I would like a single stage set trigger for this action. Any made I can adapt? Met a Virginia Gentleman who will engrave reciever when ready. He suggests two squirrels copulating, need to think about that. A Gun Runner at Front Royal ,VA has a Lyman period scope. Any help with my latest obsesion would be appreciated.
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 6:57pm
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would that "gun runner" by any chance be John Appleton? of the Front Royal Gun Shop - he is a straight up gentleman from my dealings with him.  To the best of my knowledge 44 and 44 1/2 gun bbls are not interchangable but could be wrong.
U have a good day now - rimfire
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 8:01pm
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in     the state of va ,squirrels holding hands,or exchanging  nuts would be just fine ; however,  not to judge taste in art.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 8:22pm
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The barrel configuration you described is the most common Stevens barrel style. 1/3 octagon, 2/3 round is seen on more than any other type. Keep your eyes on Ebay for old Stevens barrels, and don't wait for just a .22 rimfire, as you could also find a shot out centerfire 44 barrel cheap, and have it relined to rimfire.
A single set trigger for a Stevens 44 is gonna be a big problem. They are much harder to find than double set triggers, and even those wont be easy for a 44 frame!
You may want to have a standard trigger worked over by  a good smith, as they can be more than adequate for any target shooting once they're set up right.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 8:41pm
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vatrader01;      
                 Welcome aboard--44 &44 1/2 barrels will not interchange,but neither will barrels from the same action type, of several 44 Stevens I've owned I had one rifle that accepted another 44 barrel.  CPA sells barrel blanks [OCT] that can be fitted to the 44 action, they will also install the barrel. There are no set-triggers that I know of for the 44 Stevens.     leadball
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 9:27pm
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Mr. vatrader:

Are the squirrels in question married?

Glenn
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 11:11pm
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i believe  these squirrels were  living together in a tree in n c before application. squirrels may be united by gamewardens in va and other states.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 7:10am
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Gentlemen,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Virginia law prohibits that kind of act from going on in public.  Your engraver would have to engrave closed doors between the squirrels and the viewer to meet code.   

Brad Hurt
  
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vatrader01
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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 10:07am
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Thanks for the responses. To confirm speculations, the Gun Runner is indeed Mr. Appleton, who oozes of integrity. He has come to function in my life much like a heroin dealer. The squirrels are not married, where from West Virginia and devote pagans. Looks like CPA will be selling a barrel for the Model 44.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 10:19am
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And, if there is any question re. the over amourous tree rats ----   Mr. Ben has the patent on them --- one of his many inventions along with the world famous allen wrench bolt handle conversion.     Ken
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 7:47pm
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vatrader01;     
                 Welcome aboard--44 &44 1/2 barrels will not interchange,but neither will barrels from the same action type, of several 44 Stevens I've owned I had one rifle that accepted another 44 barrel.  CPA sells barrel blanks [OCT] that can be fitted to the 44 action, they will also install the barrel. There are no set-triggers that I know of for the 44 Stevens.     leadball


leadball,
When you say there are no set triggers for the 44 Stevens, I assume you mean aftermarket triggers? I have two Stevens 44's with set triggers, so it may be possible for vatrader01 to find a factory setup.??
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 8:58pm
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Vall,

As you know, the DST 44's have a removable lower tang, just like the 44 1/2's (I think they are actually the same unit), while the plain trigger versions have a solid lower tang, cast in one piece with the action.  At first glance, it looks like you might be able to mill out the lower, and fit a 44 1/2 style tang, but closer inspection will show that the existing trigger screw hole will have to be welded up (a job for a GOOD welder, I'm told), and new holes drilled and countersunk for the screws to hold the new tang in place.  I'm pretty sure the conversion also requires a 44 1/2 hammer/stirrup/mainspring to work, too.

I was going to try to fit a CPA lower unit in my project 44, and decided it was simply too much work. (but, to each his own!)

Instead, Glenn worked over the plain trigger on mine when he rebuilt the action...it's a VERY crisp, 12 oz. trigger pull now.

Greg
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Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2006 at 11:46pm
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Well, so far I've seen that these squirrels are gonna be from either VA, WV, or NC, one vote for each. And they're either copulating, holding hands or exchanging nuts, again one mention of each.

But it sure seems to me like there's been a lotta mention of NC here, and the infamous NC engraver sure does seem to know a lotta details about these misbehavin' rodents! And I heard that the infamous NC engraver useta sometimes travel up to VA, sometimes. But that now he doesn't do that anymore, nowadays he doesn't venture any further North than the NC state line, at least that's what I heard anyway (VBG).

So let me get this straight now. We got these two squirrels that are gonna be engraved on a nice rifle and that are engaged in some kinda questionable activities with interstate implications and are involved in some kinda extra-marital cohabitation arrangement. And we got this infamous engraver who knows a LOT about the two squirrels and their background but who refuses to cross a state line?

Now let me see.............could it be.........?............no, surely not...........?............ohmygod............. no, it just couldn't be!

Or could it?.........? Oh no, please say it's not so!!


Oh, please tell me these squirrels are over 21!
Inquiring minds...........Joe
  
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Re: Need Stevens 44 advise..
Reply #13 - Mar 30th, 2006 at 8:23am
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Joe,   I don't really want to complicate things but, here in the Old North State the question is not about the age of the squirrels. Nor is it about being caught in a moment of indiscretion. The first question is whether or not the two are properly betrothed. If they are then it's a non-issue. Their ages can (with consent) be as young as 14 , I believe. After this issue,we have to consider public display of affection. Then we should attempt to address and this other stuff. Such complications may cause a delicate engraver to turn a blind eye .
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 30th, 2006 at 11:48am
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Hmm............now let me see............delicate engraver.............hmm.............?
  
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