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Dale53
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Re: Slug Guns
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Feb 12
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Ed;
Thanks for checking in. It is nice to hear, direct, from an active competitor in the sport in question.
Dale53
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rimfire
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Feb 12
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Ed - I would like to second what Dale said - I have stood behind the lines at Friendship and watched for many years but have never shot there. Thanks again for your input.
rimfire
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SPG
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Feb 15
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Ed,
I talked to Larry Romano today; he informed me that the North/South Skirmish Association has formed and sanctioned a "sniper match" for their Civil War competitions. It seems that they will allow traditional-style slug rifles to compete. He thought the distance was to be 200 yards.
Larry didn't have all the details...if I hear more I'll let you know. I think it's a great idea; I'll have to fire up the .50 D.H. Hilliard!
Gut Ziel,
Steve Garbe
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EdStutz
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Feb 19
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Steve,
Thanks for the info, would likr to know more.
Ed
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AJC44MAG
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Re: Slug Guns
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Mar 6
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, 2006 at 8:26pm
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Hello,there.
Is this what you were looking for? (Try Google for "stump gun" OR "chunk gun"...you won't get the "slug gun hits".)
I still can't break 1 MOA with my 40/65 Browning BPCR...1 1/2 in. at 100 yd.s is the best I can do so far.
The "false muzzle" concept seems kind of "Pope" like,don't you think?
Art
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AJC44MAG
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Mar 6
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All that and nowhere to go.
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rimfire
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Mar 7
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AJC44MAG
at Friendship the way I understand it the "Slug Gun" and "Chunk Gun" are two different classes.
The traditional "chunk gun" match like is shot at the Sgt York match in Pall Mall, TN is shot across a "chunk" at a target 60yds away a round ball and open sights must be used and the butt of the rifle must be supported by the shooters shoulder.
Whereas the "slug gun" matches at Friendship, IN allow for a conical bullet, scopes and are shot from the bench. There are a few more differences such as the type of targets. will not go into detail unless requested.
u have a good day now, rimfire
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AJC44MAG
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Mar 8
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Hi,Rimfire.
Thanks for the clarification."Chunk Gun" or "Stump Gun" being distinct from "Slug Gun" seems correct to me,though the terms seem to overlap.
The thing they seem to have in common is the focus on accuracy...gotta love that.
Art
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Stacy
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Jul 20
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I have an old H.V. Perry. Can anyone tell me more about the maker or point me to some info?
Thanks!
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Re: Slug Guns
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Jul 21
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I have an old H.V. Perry. Can anyone tell me more about the maker or point me to some info?
Thanks!
You should try to buy or borrow a copy of "The Muzzle-Loading Cap Lock Rifle" by Ned H. Roberts. He has a page on H. V. Perry, of which this is an excerpt:
"There are abundant records to prove, beyond all doubt or question, that Perry was an unusually skillful marksman, and that he made some of the
most accurate rifles
that have ever been made--not excepting the modern high velocity rifles. He was a very particular and skillful workman and his rifles were much better finished than the majority of the rifles of those times."
Perry spent most of his career in Jamestown in western New York state, where he died in 1897. I just vacationed in that area, and visited the local gun shops on the chance that there might be a Perry rifle lurking about. No luck, of course. Perry's rifles have been dispersed to collectors and shooters all over the country.
Doug
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sluggunner
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Jul 21
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I used to own a Perry slug rifle. A 56 caliber of around 40 pounds. I sold it to a fellow in Florida and he still shoots it. Quite well I might add. My passion is the heavy percussion target rifles and I own a few. Mostly originals. If I can't shoot them I don't want them so they all get to the range.
Outside Friendship there are only three locations in the country that I'm aware of where they are competed with on a regular basis. They are shot at the Blue Mountain club near Shartlesville, Pa, the Canal Fulton Ramrod club here in norhtern Ohio and Grant's Pass, Oregon. I shoot at Canal Fulton and Blue Mountain and would like to do Grant's Pass sometime but that's a long way from here. If you would like specific information on these rifles or matches contact me offline.
Rich
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Bruce P
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Re: Slug Guns
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Jul 21
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Sharpsman,
If it is avaiable at your local library you might wish to check out Ned Robert's "The Muzzleloading Caplock Rifle" This book is an excellent resource. Reading the history of these rifles is almost as enjoyable as to actually shooting them
Robert's manner of writing is most entertaining. The book covers the care, loading, and development of those very accurate target rifles. Many first hand accounts of the matches of those days are featured as well as Robert's annecdotes, and interviews with those old builders.
Bruce
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jeffer1942
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Re: Slug Guns
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Jul 21
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, 2007 at 1:00pm
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Ed:
Great primer about slug guns. I shot with Ed for many years at Friendship as well and still have several slug guns. The smallest caliber I have is .32 which shoots a 200 gr. slug. The rifle weigh only about 15 lbs and is super accurate out to 300 yds or so. Much as the ASSRA, the slug gun shooters at Friendship (NMLRA) are like an extended family with many of the usual colorful characters. Marlin Bassett is a legend at Friendship for his shooting as well as for his innovative slug guns. Ed Stutz is a virtual encyclopedia of knowledge and a fierce competitor. Goerge Mitchell occasionally fires the SS ILLINOIS in competition. The rifle weigs 96 lgs and shoots, I believe, a 1000 gr. slug over lots of black powder. The report is not unlike a "slaute cannon" and it is wonderfully accurate to 500 yds. Slug guns require lots of TLC and total concentration to be successful. It is also a good idea to have a strong back!...
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singelshotman
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Jul 21
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About Ned Roberts, he's a good writer, however you will notice thru his books that EVERY gunsmith he is speaking about is "The most skillful, made the best, most accurate rifle, etc, etc." I guess Mr Roberts had no formal critial thinking, as it's impossable for every gunsmith to build the most accurate, best rifle, etc, etc. You rather get tired of him praising to the ceiling every Gunsmith you ever heard of, and many that you have not.
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KenK
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Jul 22
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Perhaps Robert's was not speaking literally. For example, a "London Best", applies to a grade of gun, not necessarily THE very best gun in London.
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