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ASSRA Long Range Rules
Dec 9th, 2005 at 9:44am
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Is there a place or a pamphlet published that has rules for shooting in the Long Range events sponsored in part by ASSRA?  Ernie Stallman mentions that they should be followed while shooting his Lodi events.  I'm mostly concerned about equipment regulations (are they different than NRA?) and sighter shots.  I know that some ranges have caliber restrictions etc. but have not really seen anything in black and white for specific regulations.  Thanks  Bob Saathoff
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 10:34am
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Order "Match, Equipment, and Scoring Rules" from Laurie Gapko (Sec'y of ASSRA). I believe the price for the booklet is $5.00.

E-mail address for Laurie is:
secretary@assra.com

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Re: ASSRA Long Range Rules
Reply #2 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 11:38am
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Sorry I dont have the rule books I think Keith does.
I will need tio get some.
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Reply #3 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 2:22pm
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Soneone correct me if I"m  wrong but the Assra rule book does not contain the rules Old-Win is requesting. leadball
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 3:24pm
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ALL rules are in the rule book for everything the ASSRA covers, including long range rules.

The target guy has ALL the rule books and by laws.

  
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Reply #5 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 3:24pm
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Bob:

If your rifle meet NRA requirements you will have no trouble at one of Ernie's Lodi matches.  I don't know of any special restrictions in regards to size and weight, and the rifles are not weighed or measured at the match. 



Here be the info from a match flyer:


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Equipment:

ANy single shot black powder rifle except bolt action rifles will be allowed. Competitors may use black powder or duplex loads with up to 15% smokeless powder. Only lead or lead alloy bullets allowed, no gas checks or jacketed bullets. Paper patch bullets okay. Shooters may use cross sticks or use a sand bag rest with hand between gun and sandbag. Equipment and ammunition shall meet the World Creedmoor Association long-range rules (as sanctioned by the ASSRA)


RANGE SAFETY: For safety we must restrict firearms to the following (both criterial must be met):

Minimum cartridge allowed is .40-70, 400 grain bullet with a minimum of 1280 fps muzzle velocity

44cal., 430 grain bullet with min. 1240 fps velocity
45 cal. , 450 grain bullet with min. 1220 fps
50 cal., 500 grain bullet with min 1210

A .40-65 duplex load meeting the .40-70 requirements will also be allowed.


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That part about ammo and rifles meeting rules as sanctioned by the  ASSRA leads one to believe that there is such a set of rules.

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Re: ASSRA Long Range Rules
Reply #6 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 5:40pm
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Actually, there are four pages of "Long Range Rules" in the booklet I cited. I had the booklet in hand when I responded.

The target guy is:
Mr. Monte Costa, 440 Henry Street, Belle Vernon, PA 15012
e-mail: assratargets@yahoo.com

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Reply #7 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 7:39pm
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The world Creedmoor Association Rules [sanctioned by ASSRA] are not in the ASSRA rule book. ASSRA does have a section on long range rules but not the Ernie Stallman "world Creedmoor Asso. rules, altho some or most of the rules are the same. Someone , please check their ASSRA rule book [mine is misplaced] I could be wrong-----I hate being wrong all the time.    leadball
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 8:39pm
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Leadball,

  Ok...... I'll type in the ASSRA Mid & Long Range rules.

Article VII Midrange & Long Range Match Rules

  The intent of these rules is to promote Midrange and Long Range Black Powder marksmanship within the Association and conform to the shooting tradition of the era 1860 - 1895. In areas of unanswered questions or interpretation of issues, the governing body shall resolve all questions in the light of the Creedmore Tradition and against modern technology and innovation. Any deviation from these rules should exist soley to encourgae participation as opposed to technological improvement.

  Section 1.0  Scope of the Rules

  The following rules apply to all domestic ASSRA sponsored Mid Range and Long Range Matches and take precedence over any other Black Powder rules. In cases in international competitions, where 100% black powder and plain based bullets are rerquired, the match program, announcements and/or advertisements for matches must indicate these and any other rule variations or special conditions that will exist in the matches.

  Section 1.01  Arms

  Any original or modern manufactured breechloading cartridge rifle designed as a single shot. Bolt actioned rifles arespecifically excluded. Original or reproduction muzzleloading rifles are acceptable. They must be chambered for authentic original black powder cartrdifges and in an authentic original black powder caliber. The weight shall not exceed fifteen (15) pounds. Rifles must have a safe trigger of any type and be of traditional configuration and of .32 caliber or larger. The stock may have an adjustable comb only and must not adjust above the centerline of the bore.

  Section 1.02  Sights

  Any metallic sight, open, aperture or tube sight is permitted but no sight may have click adjustments. One optical lens may be used in the rear sight as a substitute for perscription glasses.

  Section 1.04  Ammunition

   Genuine black powder or its equivalent must be used. No more than 15% of smokeless powder (by total weight) may be used as a cleaning or priming charge. Non-metallic wads or filler may be used; no gas checks. Loading may be by breechseating with fixed ammunition or by muzzle loading, with no restrictions on size or shape of the bullet. Bullets must be of Lead or a Lead alloy with plain bases and no half jackets. Paper patched bullets may be used. Wiping or cleaning the barrel during a  match is permitted.

  Section 1.05  Positions

  Any safe position including the various back positions may be used. No part of the rifle may be in contact with the ground, shooting mat or any artificial support.

  Section 1.06  Time Limit.

  Two sighting shots and ten (10) record shots in thiryt (30) in a 30 minute relay or fifteen (15) record shots in a 45 minute relay (total time) When two shooters are firing on the same firing point (pair shooting) the time will be doubled (60 minutes and 90 minutes respectively).
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2005 at 9:01pm
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Section 1.07  Sighter and Record Shots

  Any number of shots may be fired to get on target. The first two consecutive hits are considered as sighters. Regardless of the number of shots fired during the relay, no extra time will be allowed. Sighting shots must be either accepted as such, or by advising the scorekeeper to be converted to record shots before firing the next record shot. The first sighting shot alone can not be converted. The second sighting shot or both may be converted at the shooters opion. Coaching is allowed for all sighting shots but not for the record shots. In team competitions coachingwill be allowed for the entire team match. Spotting telescopes or good binoculars are essential on the firing line to locate the spotter on the target indicating the value of the shot fired.

  Section 1.08  Targets

  The accepted targets for use at all range distances are the standard NRA decimal type targets.

200 yards

  SR (Short Range) 13" black, 3" x ring, 7" ten ring, 13" 9 ring, plus 8, 7, 6, and 5 rings.

300 yards

  SR3, 19" black, 3" x ring, 7" ten ring, 13" nine ring, plus 8, 7, 6,  and 5 rings.

400-600 yards

  MR1 (Mid range) 36" black, 6" x ring, 12" ten ring, 18" nine ring, 24" eight ring, 36" seven ring, plus 6 and 5 rings.

800-1000 yards

  LR (long Range) 44" black, 10" x ring, 20" ten ring, 30" nine ring, 44" eight ring, plus 60" 7 ring; 6 ring is the remainder of the target.

Section 1.09  Safety

  All rifles and ammunition used in ASSRA's Black Powder programs must be in a safe and sound operating condition. Further, any rifles, ammunition or articles of equipment not appearing or not believed to be safe in the eyes and mind of the Match Director or his designated representative will be prohibited from competition. Competitors are especially cautioned with regard to their personal responsibility to insure that their equipment and supplies are in safe condition. Actions must be open at all times when not in hand on the firing line, and must have a yellow, blaze ornage, or red flag indicator rod inserted in the chqamber, or if a muzzle loader, in the muzzle of the barrel. Althought not mandatory, the wearing of adequate eye and ear protection aids are strngly advised while shooting is in progress.

Section 1.10  Scoring and Breaking Ties

  Shots are to be scored from the Leaded edge of the bullet hole. When the Leaded edge of the bullet holes touches or is tangent to the scoring ring, it shall be scored at the value of the ring touched. Numerically tied scores will be broken by counting the total number of X ring shots scored. Therafter if scores are still tied, by counting back from the last shot fired. Whenever possible scores tied for first place should be resolved by means of a "Sudden death" shootoff procedure.

Section 1.11  General Rules for Match and Range

  Midrange and Long Range Matches shall be governed by the general ASSRA match rules. Competitors can recommend rule changes to the chairman of the Match Rules Committee. Upon a favorable recommendation by the committee, the proposed changes will be subnitted to the Board of Directors. If approved, the changes will take effect immediately.

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Re: ASSRA Long Range Rules
Reply #10 - Dec 10th, 2005 at 5:49pm
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Thank you everybody:  I just received an e-mail from Monte Costa and a rules book will be on the way shortly.  Your help is much appreciated. Bob
  
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