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Pete, 
You made a point about something you have no experience with - bore diameter bullets, and in doing so, drew on me in a way that was totally misleading as I shown in far less than 1500 words.  And frankly, that pisses me off.  If you want to write about your experiences then fine, but if you are going to write about mine, expect to get called on it, when you mistakenly use my experiences to support your opinion (and note, all you have here is opinion, since you don't, haven't and never will shoot bore diameter bullets of any type).  I have noticed you doing this before on this forum and I wish you would either get it right or let it be.

And if you want to change the topic to debate paper patched bullets, that is just fine.  Frankly, I could care less, but I would be happy to debate that topic too if that is the one you want to jump to now.  So far as I have seen you have shot a few - but the great majority of your thousands of ppbs must have been shot long before my time, because I've never seen you seriously give them a try, in the last ten yrs I've shot with you.  What you did before that, I'm willing to take your word for it.  Perhaps if you had tried bore diameter bullets (like the old timers), you would have had better results. 

But back to your comments about bore diameter bullets.  They can work.  After you have tried them, let us know.  Until then, you're shooting an armchair.

Brent

Brent,

  Ok then. I've known for quite some time where I stand with you so will leave it at that.

Paul,

  I was thinking it might be optional as I saw about half the guys shooting the match were wearing a CAS outfit, and the other half in "street" clothes, so figured they might like to have you wear CAS clothes.... if you had them. Thus my question to Steve if he might know more about this. I can go either way as it doesn't make any difference to me.

  It used to be, might still be, that other than the Greenhorn match in the Spring you were required to wear CAS clothes for any event affilaited with NCOWS. Since the CVR is affiliated with NCOWS the assumption is it would be required. But, since observing the lack of CAS clothing at the Shilouette shoot I attended, I figured the CVR wasn't to particular about it, or else they had a lot of "new" shooters.

  Just trying to get it cleared up and like you say.... When in Rome...... 

  Liked your description of the range at Ackley. You layed it out pretty good, and was as I remembered it.

PETE

Pete:  I very often , in fact almost exclusively use a Lyman Postell bullet for Silhouette and Buffalo, wt approx. 528 +/-.5gr, 1/25.   Same for the Creedmoor but  with 535 gr. 

Feather: I think I used momentum in the correct sence in my last post, did'nt I? I ment hammers the target the hardest to knock it over.   

Pete, Paul, & Mary:  Opps sorry I ment Brent, re: the clothing issue at the Cedar Valley Regulators rifle shoots at Ackley.  I am not in "officialdome" either but have been on both the NCOWS and CVR Boards in past years.  So this is my view, not official docturne, but I think its pretty close at least to CVR thinking, aomewhat divergent from NCOWS more hard line attitude.     CVR is an affilliate club of NCOWS.   NCOWS requires a period dress, of their members, for their events, and everyone else as far as I know.   CVR. expects period dress of MEMBERS and  on the other hand ENCOURAGES period dress of those who may come to the rifle events,  I have never seen anyone turned away because of dress, and doubt it would ever happen.  CVR wants rifle shooters, and wants them to come back and enjoy themselves and the sport.  They also want your entry fees, that pays the bills and makes improvments.   CVR would hope attendees are observent enough to figure out whats going on  as far as dress goes, and maybe inquire about it, and for the next shoot they attend try and dress at least a little more toward period. I think its 1860-1898.  I said a LITTLE more toward period, not a perfect ensemble, just show your trying to make some effort. After all if you can afford a rifle!!!!!!!  If you have attended a CVR rifle shoots several times, and I know you have, and then show up in a baseball cap, tennis shoes, t-shirt and shorts, "they"  wlll probally have a hissy fit, let you shoot, and then take you aside and most likly explain what's expected for next time.  If you just don't get it "they" may take you aside, beat the holy crap out of ya, bust your rifle up and throw your body into the cow pies.   PS , CVR is not an exclusive club, so you might consider membership.  I've always thought shoot fees should be higher for non-menbers, but they are not.  If you fellas don't like the rules, cloths etc. etc. , well you figure it out.       Best regards  steve witt

Hi Steve,

I believe that you did use momentum correctly in your last post.  I only posted that explanation for contributers who might jump into the topic and not be too clear on the differences.

feather