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Tentman
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Jun 26th, 2005 at 11:10pm
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Hello Guys

Could you please help me out, I've been offered a Ruger No.3 that has had the stock "butchered".  It's in pretty good shape mechanically, with nothing more than worn blueing in a few places.  The current chamber is 22K Hornet, not something that interests me, so I'm attracted by its value as an action to be rebarrelled.

The offer I have been made is equivalent to US$300

Any views on how realistic this is compared with what can be obtained in the good ol' USA.

Thanks - Foster
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2005 at 11:02am
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That sounds like a bargain to me.  The No. 3 is a fine strong action and will make the basis of a dandy custom rifle.

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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2005 at 11:05am
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Better buy it  u will never get one at that price!!!!!!
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 27th, 2005 at 3:00pm
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entman --- how much would you be asking for that bbl.   ?  Ken
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 27th, 2005 at 4:48pm
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Thanks for the advice folks, I'll get moving on this one.

Ken - you help out so many other folks I'll try an get the barrel to you for the shipping cost.  Don't hold your breath though, the rifle is in Australia, I'm in New Zealand and with you in the States it'll take a bit of "putting together" .  Do you want to email me - foster @ venturesouthland.co.nz so I have your contact details and we'll see what can be made to happen.

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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2005 at 5:27pm
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Ahhh well Tent man,   didn't think about you being out of the U.S.A.    Better just forget it but, many thanks for your generousity !  I have a #3 action being stocked by Greg Pennell (First Shirt) as a bench rifle --- they will make a fine action/rifle.  Brownells has two set triggers for the #3 action if you want a better trigger.   Ken
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 28th, 2005 at 1:46am
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Hmmmm . . . nothing is impossible, we'll wait and see what gives . . 

Meanwhile I'd love to see and/or hear about (or be pointed to) some examples of modifications or custom rifles based on the No 3 action (or no 1 for that matter).   

How about the story of your rifle Ken, or an update from Wesg on his No.3 work . . . 

cheers - Foster
  
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Re: Ruger No. 3 Action Value
Reply #7 - Jun 28th, 2005 at 5:44pm
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Tentman, one of the sweetest rifles out there recently based on the #3 action is the one Steve (buchsenmacher) Durren built for MI-Shooter.  If you ask real nice, maybe Steve will post a picture or two for you to get some ideas.  Wink

Meanwhile, anything that can be done with the #1 can also be done with the #3, except where a tight pistol grip is concerned.  If you want a tight PG stock, you will have to alter the lever somewhat to give proper clearance and working room, but that just means that you get to do a special lever!   Grin

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Reply #8 - Jun 28th, 2005 at 8:19pm
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If I can ever figure out how to post photos on here, I just finished a No. 3 with a pistol grip and loop lever.  Shot it this last weekend at Eau Claire, WI, at the ISSA Regionals...shall we say that the rifle and I are just starting to know each other's peculiarities?  Wink

Ken, the triggers at Brownells are the Kepplinger set trigger and an adjustable one that pretty well duplicates the original No. 1 trigger's adjustment points...but it's not a set trigger.   

Also, Ken, contact me privately, I may have a barrel for you.

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Reply #9 - Jun 29th, 2005 at 4:00am
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$300 sounds like a good deal to me too. I think the cheapest one I found was 375, and that was several years ago.

Mine is resting comfortably next to my keyboard. I figure I should get a couple other projects out of the way first. Almost ordered a barrel for it the other day, and then decided to wait a while on that too. I've got a line on a barrel mount scope that I may use with this, and the guy said he'd make a decision whether to sell it or not next month. I'm thinking about making the bases integral with the barrel and would like to have it in hand to see if that's practical or not. Not doing that would allow me to use a standard diameter blank rather than spending extra for a larger one.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 14th, 2005 at 1:29pm
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I have a Ruger #3 in 30/40 Krag (in very good condition) and was just wondering what everyone thought mine might be worth?   I bought it in 1976 for a rainy  day hunting rifle, but never used it until last when I got a deer with it.  Tim K
  
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Re: Ruger No. 3 Action Value
Reply #11 - Jul 14th, 2005 at 9:57pm
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TimK,  I don't know what the rifle will bring, but I would be interested in that particular model and caliber as I have hunted a bit with a sporterized Krag in the past.  How about dropping me a PM when you get a handle on asking price, please?

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Reply #12 - Jul 15th, 2005 at 9:19am
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Charlie, I went on gunsamerica.com and they had a #3 in 30/40K, in poorer condition than mine and they are asking $850!  I bought the gun because it was cheaper than a #1.  I only used it to get the deer last year because my son-in-law's 6mm PPC AR was having feeding problems, so I gave him my 243 Ruger 77 (tang safety vintage).  I had loaded the 30/40 up with some maximum  velocity 180g bullets for Russian boar hunting (again as my backup gun) and the bullet went in one side, hit a rib, took out a 2" hole through the lungs and top of the heart, took out the opposite leg bone and the bullet just kept going.  Wow, way to much power!  I've been preparing to load up some nice soft lead bullets, at nice slow velocities, for this coming fall, if I don't use my new 38-55 (vintage 1897) Win Model 1894.  Tim K
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 15th, 2005 at 1:01pm
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I have not figured out the posting of pictures but send me your email address and I can send a couple of jpegs of my rifle and action.

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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2005 at 8:54am
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MI, you can send pictures to my work address, I tend to use that computer more than my home one.  At least I have it on all day.  It is tkwiecinski@stanadyne.com.  I have a nice picture of my #3 resting on the deer I spoke of.  Tim K
  
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Re: Ruger No. 3 Action Value
Reply #15 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 3:21pm
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I hate to rain on your parade but it can cost a whole lot to ship a rifle from Australia ( And I assume NZ too) to the USA

I worked down under for some time and belonged to the local smallbore club. When I left they gave me my Club owned Gun , Anschutz M54 prone rifle.  My company paid all the expenses to ship my household home including the rifle. Our business is shipping and ran ships back and forth,  you would think I could have just put on one one of the weekly sailings.

No, You needed an export license from the Austrailan Army.  The exchange had to be OKed by the local police who certified I had an Austrailan shooters license and was the legal owner.  Normaly and the best method is to enlist the services of an export agent to handle the paperwork which I did.

Then it had to be shipped to a Licensed USA importer who had to enter it with Customs and certify it met all American regulations. I knew Neal Johnson the Anschutz importer who had already cetified that model and did the importation for me at no charge. There was some loophole that he worked on the rifle while in his possetion, all he did was look at the barrel and re-bed the stock. And he had to stamp the reciver with his companys name as importer of record. Then he had to ship it to my local dealer were I went through the normal records checks.

Our ship could not carry it as we did not normaly carry firearms and were not an approved carrier so we paid Air freight

The whole thing cost over 500 bucks, the same for one single shot .22 as if it had been a thousand rifles. Antiques are a little simpler but not much. Ony step you skip is the Army certification

There were some real bargins at local gun shops and shows.  Australia must have bought more Low walls than any other country. Many for sale in rough condition for under 100 US dollars. But it just did not pay to try to bring one home.

I recomend giving it up and buying a Ruger here.

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Reply #16 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 7:41pm
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The situation in NZ appears to be somewhat better, at least for bona fide antiques, i.e. made in or before Dec 1898. At least two different NZ dealers are selling pre-98 rifles to USA citizens and shipping them directly to the buyers' USA street addresses via US mail without any extra paperwork or expense to the buyer. The USA end is simplified because any antique rifle is not considered a firearm under US federal law & so is treated just like a muzzle-loader, no federal restrictions. I don't know what is required on the NZ end but obviously it couldn't be very expensive or complicated since the NZ dealers continue to make a profit and the US customers continue to get a fair deal. Australia is apparently different.
FWIW, good luck, Joe
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 26th, 2005 at 10:02am
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Yes but that Ruger is not an antique.  Export from NZ may not be a problem but it can only be imported by a  Fed Licened importer.

You may be able to find one that will do it for you. I was lucky that the Anschutz importer used to be in our area and i knew him. Plus he does a lot of this for target shooters.
  
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