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Gunsmith for 1885
Apr 11th, 2005 at 2:08pm
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Hello, I'm new to the board what a great site and glad I found a sight with so much info on Single Shots. I have a Winchester 1885 recent production and if possibly I would like to get a set trigger for it. Who would be a good gunsmith or gunsmiths to talk to about this.
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Re: Gunsmith for 1885
Reply #1 - Apr 11th, 2005 at 5:06pm
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All 1885s are not created equal. Almost none are exactly like the origionals inside where it counts. This dosn't mean that it can't be done but it will change who should do the work. A lot of smiths won't touch the Brownings for example. It would help for starters to know who made the action.

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Reply #2 - Apr 11th, 2005 at 5:14pm
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It is a brand new Winchester USRAC made in japan by Miruko caliber is 45/70. It does have a metal tang if that matters.
Trigger is adjustable with one screw. No much of an adjustment. 
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Reply #3 - Apr 11th, 2005 at 6:32pm
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You say you have one of the Browning/Winchester 1885 rifles. While these are fine rifles they bear only a passing resembelence to an original Winchester 1885 and internaly very little resembelence. They are however as I said very fine rifles. Unfortunatly I don't believe anyone is making aftermarket triggers for them. On the plus side I'm sure the famous Dale53 will chime in here and offer you a copy of his article on reworking the trigger on your rifle. His method produces a nice crisp trigger and will usually result in less than two pounds pull. It does require a lathe to modify a 7mm screw, but will give you the trigger pull you desire.

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Re: Gunsmith for 1885
Reply #4 - Apr 11th, 2005 at 7:14pm
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The Dale53 trigger fix will do most of what you want.  And, you don't really need a lathe to do it.  I was between shops when I made several of these.  I used a vernier caliper, drill press, a hacksaw, and a file, and could make one of the screws in 5 minutes or so from a stock 7mm bolt.  They worked as well as the ones I make on my lathe.

Only caution I would have is make sure the trigger is broken in well before you do the Dale53 fix.  If the sear isn't slightly worn, it will wear and become unsafe quickly as you use it.   

On new rifles, I dry fire them about 100 times while putting extra pressure on the hammer with my thumb.  This will wear the sear edge enough to make the Dale53 fix stable.

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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2005 at 11:13am
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Dave and Steve, Thank you for the info, how do I find out more about the Dale 53 trigger fix? Is this very complicated? Or should it be done by someone with experience?
Sorry for all the questions but I'm learning!!!
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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2005 at 12:40pm
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Mike-The Dale53 fix is good and I am sure you could do it yourself.  But once you re-install the stock you have to remove the stock if you need to readjust the screw should the trigger wear in too much.   I would recommend the JB Innovations trigger screw fix (from Brownells) which does the same thing as Dale53 except does it by replacing the factory adjusting screw.   It can be adjusted anytime you need too.  In either case be carefull as both fixes work, but if set too light, both are prone to unintentional let off.   Best Regards Steve Witt
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2005 at 4:29pm
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Mike, two gunsmiths that have excellent reputations for trigger work on the Browning/Winchester single shots are Lee Shaver of Missouri, and Mike Lewis of Colorado.   I can did up contact information for either or both, if you're interested.

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Re: Gunsmith for 1885
Reply #8 - Apr 14th, 2005 at 7:29am
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Gregg and Steve thank you, I've ordered the part from brownells and will see how that goes.
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Re: Gunsmith for 1885
Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 2:33pm
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I received the parts from Brownell and installed them. What a great improvement. Thanks again for your help.
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Reply #10 - Apr 27th, 2005 at 11:12am
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Mike-Glad the JB suggestion is working for you.  Just be careful with it and be aware that as the trigger hammer and sears wear in some, the potential for inadvertent release also increases.  I use these myself on a couple Brownings, (same action as the new Winchesters) and they have worked well, but have had to make minor adjustments on a couple occassions.  As long as you stick to a light but reasonable pull weight there will be no problem..   Best Regards steve witt, waterloo, ia.
  
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