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JDSteele
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Dec 2nd, 2004 at 11:37pm
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I'm building an early Francotte Martini Cadet (2 of 'em actually) and have made a grip cap with the Francotte name inside a scroll cartouche. My question for you is, how is the name Francotte pronounced in Belgium? I asked my brother, who spent a year at the Sorbonne as an exchange student, and even he couldn't give me a defiinitive answer. He said it would depend upon the location of the speaker and which language.

Possibilities that occur to me are Frrrahng-coat, Frrrahng-coh-tah, Fran-cot and Fran-cottie. Can you help?
Regards, Joe
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 3:56pm
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Actually, it would be something like Fran (like in france) - cott : the final -e is not pronounced, and the 'a'  is long (a bit with the brit accent, you know.... Wink  )  The 't' at the end is hard and pronounced.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 4th, 2004 at 5:01pm
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Many thanks. I think very highly of Francotte arms, having owned rifles by them as small as the 297/230 Morris and as large as the 450/400 Nitro Express.

My friend Clarence the Collector owned, until very recently, a Francotte copy of the 1876 Winchester musket, a variation not mentioned in any of our literature so far as I know. We think it was chambered for the 43 Mauser cartridge. Clarence has one of the best collections of 1876 Winchesters outside of the Cody museum, and he was very curious about this apparently very rare rifle. We theorize that Francotte may have made it as a demonstration model for possible competition with the Winchester product.

It's a shame that more of their arms aren't around over here.
Thanks again, Joe
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2004 at 3:10pm
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JD,
Francotte was mostly a manufacturer for others, he basically produced whatever other arms manufacturers ordered - to sell under their own name...  He had very close connections with the British gun trade, more in particular Westley Richards (but other famous names too...) and actually made components and/or complete firearms for others - this was his main business.  He also made some stuff under his own name, but most of his production was commercialized under other's names - which is probably also the reason why the factory records were destroyed when the firm went bankrupt in the 70's.  Francotte in those days was one of the major european firearms manufacturers as to production capacity, and able to cope with large orders and short delays (especially for others...)  This is one of the reasons why Francotte-marked rifles are so rare  - even here, although I believe to have located a transitory model for the cadet action - a model with the standard cocking indicator, and a relief cut in the receiver to accomodate the single-pin takedown feature...
  
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