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bob_campbell
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What model SS do I have?
Nov 14th, 2004 at 3:30pm
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I just inherited a single shot rifle from my grand father-in-law. 
It was purchased between 1950 and 1970.  Here are some more facts about it.  Please help me identify the manufacturer and model.   Thank you,  Bob

TYPE – Long gun rifle with 26” barrel. 
ACTION – Single shot, falling block action, exposed hammer, "S" shaped lever covers trigger.   
CALIBER – accepts 22 hornet bullet. 
MEASUREMENTS – barrel length is 26”, overall length 41”.
MARKINGS – Few markings.  On bottom behind trigger.  “Pat. Oct 7th 79   84561”.
FINISH - Blued steel.
STOCK - Marbled walnut.
SIGHTS - None, but has taps for scope.  Fitted with a scope using Weaver detachable mount. 
SAFETY - None. 


  
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Re: What model SS do I have?
Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2004 at 3:54pm
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The patent date is the giveaway! It's a Winchester model 1885. They were made in what is referred to as "Low Walls" and "High Walls", but with the info you've given, it's hard to say which you have.
The barrel may have been changed, or refinished, as it should have had Winchester's rollstamp on the top. Is it round or octagon barreled?
The bottom of the barrel, just in front of the forearm should also have a single number, i.e.-1,2,3,4,5,etc? That is the barrel weight, but it may also not be there, if it has been rebarreled.
If you have a digital camera, you can email me a picture, and I can help with more info.
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Re: What model SS do I have?
Reply #2 - Nov 15th, 2004 at 10:54pm
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marlinguy -
Thanks so much for determining it is an 1885!  Looks like I must have a "High Wall". 
Here are several photos so you (and anyone else) can take a closer look.  It is a round barrel and I did not find the single digit number to indicate barral weight.  I would appreciate anything else you can tell me about this rifle. 
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Re: What model SS do I have?
Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2004 at 12:01am
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Bob- What you have is a '50's era "varmintized" Winchester low wall.  The barrel and the wood have been replaced.  The serial #84561 should have been 1901 original production.
  

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Re: What model SS do I have?
Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2004 at 3:55pm
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Mr. Campbell:

The low wall action you have started it's life as a .22 rimfire, as indicated by the relief cut in the top of the barrel ring and the top front edge of the breech block. The action looks to be in good shape and not exposed to a buffing wheel.

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Re: What model SS do I have?
Reply #5 - Nov 16th, 2004 at 11:02pm
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Bob, there is a strange extra screw in the left side of the receiver.  The lower one (corresponding to a similar one on the right side) holds the trigger tang in place, but I don't recognize the slightly larger one that is above and slightly forward of it.  Your basic receiver is the trim little smooth side (which some call the "thick side" but it isn't) which makes the slickest little basis for a small caliber such as your .22 Hornet (or .22 rimfire, or about any pistol caliber) of any of the 'walls.  Be aware that the lower tang has a distinctly non-factory bend for that varminter stock and will not fit standard low-wall stocks should you ever decide to restock it in the future.  It looks like your rifle escaped many of the indignities that were heaped on some varminters of the day and you got a nice little package.  Hope you will enjoy it a lot, I know I would!   
Grin

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