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Blacki
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Aug 5th, 2004 at 4:26pm
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Does anyone know of a good article on how to neck down a cartridge that can be found on the web?? Thanks.

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Reply #1 - Aug 5th, 2004 at 9:32pm
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What are you necking down and to what?
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 5th, 2004 at 10:45pm
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I neck down .45-70 to use in my .33 Win rifle. Most the time it's a no brainer, unless you're getting really radical bottlenecks.
In the .45 to .33 case, I simply run the cases through my .40-65 dies, and then right into my .33 dies. Then load them up and shoot away!
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2004 at 7:41am
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I am just trying to get a general idea of the process of necking down one caliber to a different one. I'm  wondering what a .43 Spanish ( Remington ) carbine  could be made from.
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Re: necking down
Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2004 at 8:50am
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Cartridge Conversions by Donnelly dosn't list any parent cartridge for the 43 Spanish / 11.15 X 58R Remington Spanish.
You will have to buy it from one of the specialty cartridge cos. I would reccomend Rocky Mountain as I don't trust any of that Austrailian stuff.

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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2004 at 8:24pm
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Actually the .43 Spanish can be made from .348 Win brass, according toThe Home Guide to Cartridge Conversions by George Nonte. It needs to be opened up rather than necked down. The .348 is another problem, as it's hard to come by also. You can get brass for either at Buffalo Arms, or Rocky Mountain Cartridge Co. They both sell .43 Spanish cases.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2004 at 3:07pm
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I've got a supply of 43 Spanish brass from days gone by. Sold the gun , kept the stuff. I've learned not to be too hasty about letting go. Anyhow, you'd be welcome to a handful if you want to see how the 348 to 43 works for you.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2004 at 1:09am
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If it is a carbine, a chamber cast may be in order, especially before buying dies, etc.  In the military black powder cartridge days, there were quite often carbine cartridges that were short versions.  There was often a one-way interchangeability.  You could shoot the carbine cartridges in the rifle, but the rifle cartridges would not chamber in the carbine.   

I am a cartridge collector, and there are 11 mm Spanish carbine, the standard 11 mm Spanish bottlenecked rifle case, and a latter day version called the 11.15 mm Reformado on a lot of lists.  The Reformado is a larger tapered case version.  The Spanish carbine cartridge is a lot pricier than the other two.  I think there are rolling block carbines chambered for all 3 cartridges, depending on when & where they were made. ???

  
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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2004 at 2:07pm
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Thanks everyone for the great info. I'm waiting on the arrival of the R.B. When I get it the first thing I will do is a chamber cast and then  I will post the results. I know that some carbines were really cut down rifles and could chamber a reg. rifle round whereas the true carbines could not chamber a rifle round while the rifles could chamber a carbine round. Chamber casting and bore slugging seem to be the best bet.

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