I have another topic. What lubricant do you use in your schuetzen rifle with smokeless?

I come from a background of several years of Black Powder Cartridge Rifle Silhouette. I used SPG with satisfaction but then discovered Emmert's Home Mix (developed by Buck Emmert for smokeless Schuetzen use many years ago) was an excellent black Powder lubricant. I used it exclusively until I quit shooting BPCR.

Naturally, I tried it with smokeless Schuetzen and have found it to be an excellent lubricant. It is easily prepared, and uses readily available components ( 50% pure natural beeswax, 40% Crisco Shortening {the lard like NO FLAVOR stuff}, and 10% Canola Oil. The Crisco and Canola Oil can be found in your local super market. Charlie Dell suggests it would be a good idea to add maybe 5% of anhydrous lanolin (I intend to do that).

What do you use? Why?

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Dale53

I use 50/50 bear grease and bees wax. It is/was traditionaly used for black and works well for smokeless at least for me. If I am trying a new bullet that I don't have a lube die for and don't want to make one up I either pan lube or just use my fingers and rub it on. It works well at any temperature that I have run into either at Etna Green, Raton or here in Wisconsin.
fallingblock

Since I shot both smokeless and black powder I've pretty well settled on SPG. Keeps things simple. But when I plan on using strictly smokeless in a gun I'll use Javelina's 50/50 Alox/Beeswax. I have tried a few of the home made lubes but never found them to be any better than the above two.

PETE

     I first used Emmerts and got leading.  I then tried Bowker lube which is a half pound each of beeswax and beef tallow and a table sp oon of STP.  I got leading with this also but it may have been the way I rendered the beef tallow with too much heat.   
     My present lube is a pound of beeswax and a half pound each of lanolin and bear fat with a half stick of LBT blue thrown in for some color.  It turns green with a bit of age.  So far no leading in my rifles with the same loads that leaded with the other two lubes tried.
     A good source of fat for rendering is a meat market that butchers livestock and also handles game animals during the deer and bear seasons.  mes

Charlie Dells 59C is what I am currently using and find it to be a world beater for me!!

Many Canadians and quite a few Westerners are using Alberta Schuetzen Lube which has proved to work extremely well from -40 to 110 degrees. Alberta Schuetzen Lube is a Charlie Dell recipe that was improved further by Ralph Macdonald. One of the new additions to the recipe was metal conditioner. I am not sure which of Charlie's recipes formed the base for the Alberta Schuetzen lube.

Ira,

Never seen SPG migrate at high temps.  It gets pretty hot here in the summer and it's not a problem with my smokless loads. 

Boats

Shipbuilder'
Slippery is good for black powder loads.  Give it a try, it might work great. Here in the Pacific Northwest,  just about anything will work with black in the winter. 

Is regular old Alox  still being made?   A shooter at the range told me its not available anymore. 


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